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Here is why HHO does not violate the LAWS of Physics

Postby EddieRock on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:40 pm

So... There are many sites on the internet bashing HHO and how it "violates" the laws of physics. They say that it takes more energy to create the HHO than you will get on a return in your pocket by getting better gas mileage. Well I'll explain why they are ALL WRONG!

Do you know how efficient your internal combustion engine is? Well, by the time the gasoline burns and gets the motor turning, the transmission moving the wheels turning, the average engine ONLY GETS about 15% efficiency (Found on FuelEfficiency.gov government website here: Engine Efficiency) Yes... Only 15%. All that heat, all that friction, all that weight, all those moving parts, electronics and all that drag. It all counts. Especially most of the "burn" in the cylinder does not even complete. That's why there are all these "Platinum" spark plugs that try and make the gas fully burn.

HHO uses brute force electrolysis which is about 85% efficiency. So if we inject HHO we produce as a supplement then YES, we conserve energy! But as HHO is an additive and burns SO FAST and Hot, it enhances the slow burning gasoline and speeds up the rate of combustion causing more total combustion to the process which translates to mechanical energy of the engine. It burns the gasoline better raising the efficiency of the engine. So, if we are able to raise the efficiency of the engine only 10%, we're now getting 25% efficiency. That's a 55% increase!! So if you deduct around 15% to create the HHO and you're still getting 40%. I learned this information from my good friend Bob Volk. He went head to head with Popular Mechanics challenging them to a better test and they have not responded... yet!

Bob's quote (and full explanation) can be found on our site on HHO Efficiency.

If you still don't believe, then test it for yourself!
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Postby gmhajh on Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:49 am

Hi Ed; Have you had personal experience with the "Hybrid Water Power" system that is #1 on your list? I'm just getting into this HHO area and I would like to get more info, if that means buying their product I would like to have feed back from people that have seen and or used it. gmh
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Re: Here is why HHO does not violate the LAWS of Physics

Postby EddieRock on Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:18 pm

Here is our experience and what we're doing next...

When we first started out experimenting with HHO, we tried a few different manuals online. Built the kits and tried them out. When working with the manuals (not fair to bash the companies now), we discovered that that they were not complete, didn't make sense or were too complicated (WAY TOO COMPLICATED). When we built our first HHO kit from one of the manuals and it worked but was kind of low grade and didn't work very well (but did work). After spending time and money, we found out that there were some manuals and companies that really made a easy to understand manual and their support was there (tested the support). After purchasing the Hybrid Water Power manual, I was amazed at how well it was written and how much was on the support site (videos, manuals, parts lists, supplier lists and more).

To answer your question, we've ordered all the parts and when they come in, we're going to install it. We had to purchase everything just like you will and we don't have a fleet of test vehicles for all products. It takes time and money...

Now please remember, Hybrid Water Power's CEO is dedicated to HHO and has been refining the product for quite some time. HHO is all they do. His product is not something a novice put together to make money online. Again, this is ALL they do. The support that Hybrid Water power has is by far the best. This is one of the MAIN reasons that we recommend their product as the TOP product.

Since we've been recommending products, we've changed our ratings many times. We've removed many products throughout our time researching the top HHO products. The ratings are based on a few aspects. They are: Quality of the manual, support, customer feedback and percentage of returns. Returns are a good indication of customer satisfaction. Hybrid Water Power has BY FAR the lowest return percentage and ZERO complaints. The CEO (Bob) has been very responsive and we talk about the technology on a weekly basis. Did you see the page we have on his explanation of HHO and why it works? If not, it is here: How HHO Works

Let me know if this helps. Again, I highly recommend his product over ALL the others for a "DIY" manual.

After you buy the product and install your first HHO generator, come back and post your experience.

Thanks,
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Re: Here is why HHO does not violate the LAWS of Physics

Postby razorback on Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:34 pm

like the other guy i am just know getting into the hho scene.i have one on my 95 chevey half ton.no sooner than i got it on i am already seeing ways i could have done better in some areas.have started building one for my 93 toyota.looking forward to learning from these forums and be of any help i can.this is a wide open field and very interesting.
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Re: Here is why HHO does not violate the LAWS of Physics

Postby Lordgord on Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:08 am

Well, as I am a comlete novice in this field I can only congratulate and applaud all those members who are submitting and sharing their knowledge and helping to promote alternate or complementary means of powering our vehs.
Well done, keep up the good work.
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Re: Here is why HHO does not violate the LAWS of Physics

Postby alecracing on Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:51 pm

I am an Automotive Instructor for Parkway Academy and would like to get one of these kits for my students to install and verify the mpg advantage. The problem is that there is so many sites out there, how do I know which ones are legit :cry:
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Re: Here is why HHO does not violate the LAWS of Physics

Postby alecracing on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:44 pm

OK, so after spending a few hours on this site, I have come to the conclusion that this site seems very reputible. With all the links to other reputible sites, and doing some research on Bob Volk, and also seeing as you guys started a forum for people to expand their knowledge on the subject, I am going to consider this a good site. :D
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Re: Here is why HHO does not violate the LAWS of Physics

Postby kurtintemecula on Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:16 pm

Hello, Kurt here.

Just found your site and I am impressed. I read the POP Mech stuff and must say there is a lot of controversy. I was not impressed with the PM test methodology. In fact, I saw very little data on how they did the test.

So looking at Bob Volk's retort makes me wonder who in this industry is going to set it all straight. I would think that PM would take him up on his offer to fly out and prove his stuff.

I am eager to do my own test on my 2000 Ford E150 van. Anyone out there interested in sending me a kit so I can run a real test and report results? Actually, I don't need the kit so much as the instructions. I am a great mechanic and can build almost anything from scratch.
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Re: Here is why HHO does not violate the LAWS of Physics

Postby EddieRock on Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:43 pm

kurtintemecula wrote:I am eager to do my own test on my 2000 Ford E150 van. Anyone out there interested in sending me a kit so I can run a real test and report results? Actually, I don't need the kit so much as the instructions. I am a great mechanic and can build almost anything from scratch.


Kurt,

One of the reasons we're here is to promote the HHO technology and professionally designed instructions. I'd recommend to you to buy Bob's manual and build one or two. Once you have the manual, you can build all you want. You sound like you would be someone that would do a professional non-biased test on the product. I think you will be impressed. As you said, we need some more independant HHO results and you will get a high quality HHO generator when you're done. :D We can't give out the HHO instructions or we would ge in trouble :o

Let us know what you can do.

thanks,

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Re: Here is why HHO does not violate the LAWS of Physics

Postby Pinoy_ako_1234567890 on Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:36 am

Hi, i'm currently staying here in manila. while surfing the net, i come across your site. a Filipino invertor also invented this same technology 30year ago
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