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Engine Damage Question

Postby mitch98 on Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:25 am

In my research, Ive read that using HHO could somehow lead to engine damage and possibly voiding the warranty. Exactly what king of damage am I going to look for?

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Re: Engine Damage Question

Postby alexercsei on Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:05 pm

Hi, Mitch,

If U run only on HHO, U must have stainless steel exhaust pipes and stainless steel valves - this are vulnerable to rust (burning HHO generates water) or apply a ceramic coating treatment to the engine.

Also, keep a close check on the engine temperature, because the HHO burn with higher temperature than fossil fuel.

Use a high quality engine oil.

In Otto engines-When U run only with HHO gas, U must adjust the timing of the spark so that it occurs after the top dead center, because the HHO burned faster than fossil fuels.

See U on forum :D
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Re: Engine Damage Question

Postby AHI on Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:03 am

Hi Mitch. I don't think I altogether agree with Alexrecsei.

The amount of water produced is minimal. By all means fit a stainless exhaust when you have a change. The water produced will be exhausted as steam so I wouldn't worry too much about the valves. The cost of applying ceramic coatings makes it a non starter.

Although the initial heat is higher it is also accomplished much more quickly. The effect is to allow your engine and exhaust systems to be cooler.

Use a good quality synthetic oil if you can afford the initial cost. It will last a lot longer.

Unless you are a mechanic and understand exactly what you are doing I wouldn't suggest you advance your engine to that level. You would also have to retime your valves as well. I would strongly suggest you get a mechanic who is familiar with retuning engines to do any of this sort of work. The theory is right but the practicalities are not so simple.

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Re: Engine Damage Question

Postby claytoninca on Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:44 pm

AHI, are you aware of any mechanics who would fit your bill in Southern California? I have been told to find a high performance / racecar mechanic, but I'm just a guy who wants better mileage and do not have a bunch of friends who are into racing.

Anyone who knows where to find someone who knows what they are doing would be appreciated!
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Re: Engine Damage Question

Postby oldporchdwg on Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:21 am

Hi Mitch, if your nickname is "ceasar", then beware of knives today - the Ides of March, LOL!!
my nephew was a great mechanic and would have no problem putting this HHO in, but he was murdered a couple years back and i do not know how. worse yet, i do not know a good mechanic in the States (Fla) and i am afraid these Brit English instructions could be misunderstood. how hard is it to put in this HHO device? How much should a good mechanic charge to put it in (i am a disabled vet on a fixed income)?? await your reply,thanks, john
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Re: Engine Damage Question

Postby EddieRock on Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:18 pm

Oldporchdwg,

Installing a HHO kit is pretty easy. The hardest part is hooking up the EFIE and O2 standoffs. Other than that, it's a bolt on product. Should not take more than a few hours

Now, building the HHO kit may take a little longer. Bob Volks Hybrid Water Power instructions (ebook) is really written well and is easy to follow. Finding the parts is not a problem either. I've linked his product so you can check it out.

In Fl, any mechanic should be able to help you out.

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Re: Engine Damage Question

Postby hondadude on Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:13 am

im new to hho, iput a gen on my 96 dakota, a few more mpg, about 3, but i do seem to have more power. i didnt change an electronics. my wife has a 2002 dodge mini van. will i fry expensive stuff if i dont make changes n just add hho?
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Re: Engine Damage Question

Postby billhac on Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:02 pm

most likely what will happen is the computer will notice the added o2 and compensate with more gasoline which is what you don't want, get a MAP/MAF enhancer at the least and you will see better gains, but an EFIE or MAFe is usually required to see good gains
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Re: Engine Damage Question

Postby montanagf on Fri May 15, 2009 2:25 pm

From what I've read, we have to worry more about running our cars with ethonol additive in a greater % of gas than is on the market today.
it can damage the gaskets and rubber items in the fuel line.
I talked to my mechanic and he said he expects more repair business if we go to a pure ethonol fuel. Does the ethonol additive have any effect on the HHO production?
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Re: Engine Damage Question

Postby terryao61 on Thu May 21, 2009 2:57 pm

Hi to all.
I really need an answer to this ? When i make and hook up the gen. DO i have to have my truck or car re tuned?
and what else needs to be done?
Im looking forward to useing this new tec. but im just a little confused about the posts on tune ups and about the stainless steel exhaust. Please help me understand, Terry
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